The more layers you build up the flatter it gets – the stuff is underneath, so it’s not the same thing as putting it down flat.

You’re working in the round all the time – you’re coming to the surface, but by the time it gets to the surface, somehow you’re getting rid of shadows.

I dont know what happens, but I’m finding that this picture that I’m working on – forever – is flat.  The more I’m working on it – because it’s not finished, I’m still not up to the sun – it’s getting flatter and flatter.

But the connections have merged so well that it looks all of a piece, which gets rid of the dimensions.  They aren’t gone – they’re underneath. So you feel the dimensions, but you don’t see them.

And I think that has to do with Rothko too and why we feel what we feel about him and why some people cry.

But who can account for emotions – i don’t know. Don’t think that because you don’t cry you’re not seeing it.

Sometimes it doesn’t take long – like the picture of me and Yehuda – but sometimes it takes forever. There are no rules.